Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ancestral home (Philippines)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. — Joseph Fox 01:07, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ancestral home (Philippines)

This article was moved from Ancestral home (Philippines) to Ancestral houses of the Philippines by the user who started this article (User:Briarfallen) following instructions from WP:GD.

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WP:NEO article that doesn't appear to have any reason to be specific to the Philippines. JaGa^talk 00:04, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:11, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep~~Delete WP:Wikipedia is not a dictionary I think these two words would have just about the same meaning in any country. Maybe mention in Home.~~ The author has done a great job of establishing the notability of this topic. Please consider this in closing this AfD. The article is 100% (or more) better now. Borock (talk) 05:53, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, move Ancestral home (China) back to Ancestral home, and expand it with any notable information about the Philippines or elsewhere to make a worldwide view. It's a broad concept, not a DAB. It needs a hatnote to Ancestral Home (Polish political party) and vice versa. Certes (talk) 12:53, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I added hatnotes to both. - Briarfallen (talk) 18:13, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, in the Philippines the phrase 'ancestral home' refers to the houses, the structure, because of Filipino tradition kept by the same family for generations, not sold. This could mean any type of house - from a shack to a mansion. Some of these special houses that are recognized for architectural or historical value and given the title and marker as Heritage house by the National Historical Commission of the Philippines.[1]. In the Philippines, 'ancestral home' is more than just a phrase, it invokes history, family and memories.[2] Nicer 'ancestral homes' are highlighted in some communities and have been included as points of interest of their town.[3][4][5][6] Some 'ancestral homes' are in danger because of opportunistic people.[7] I am planning to change the name to 'Ancestral homes in the Philippines' because it is more than just a structure in that country. I just started the article just a few days ago, I haven't had a chance to expand it yet. Please give it time to grow.(WP:DEV)

The reason why I deemed appropriate to start a disambiguation page is because of the other usage of 'ancestral home', like in Poland where it is a political party title which is not any way related to ancestry or tradition. Furthermore, in China, 'ancestral home' is the hometown or the village, not the structure, where they belong to or the origin of one's family. It is a completely different meaning, so I did not combine it into one article.

I do not know how the phrase 'ancestral home' is used in different countries of the world. Surely, you could find the two words in the dictionary, but when you combine the two words together, what exactly does it mean where you live? Do you even use the two words together where you live? You could relegate 'ancestral home' into mere two words, but in some cultures it is more than that. Wikipedia is not viewed from just one's perspective. - Briarfallen (talk) 19:04, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Following instructions from WP:GD, I have moved Ancestral home (Philippines) to Ancestral houses of the Philippines because I am referring to the structure, the Filipino tradition of valuing the houses of their elders, and the houses declared by the government as important to the Filipino heritage. I just want to point again that I just started the article just nine days ago today, being submitted for deletion is against WP:DEV. Thanks. - Briarfallen (talk) 16:33, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep. Vastly improved since nomination. Deletion arguments no longer valid. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 15:02, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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